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{{Short description|Wingman.live chart of dating lore from folk clichés to in-jokes}} | {{Short description|Wingman.live chart of dating lore from folk clichés to in-jokes}} | ||
{{Infobox term | {{Infobox term | ||
| name | | name = Dating iceberg | ||
| also | | also = dating game lore iceberg, dating_iceberg_v2 | ||
| field | | field = Internet folklore / index | ||
| origin | | origin = [[wingman.live]] chart (dating_iceberg_v2, 2026) | ||
| related = [[Pickup artist]]; [[Seduction Wiki:Point of view]]; [[Authenticity]] | | related = [[Pickup artist]]; [[Seduction Wiki:Point of view]]; [[Authenticity]] | ||
| image | | image = Dating iceberg v2.png | ||
| caption = dating_iceberg_v2 — Wingman.live index chart | | caption = dating_iceberg_v2 — Wingman.live index chart | ||
| alt | | alt = Dating iceberg chart in ten layers | ||
}} | }} | ||
The '''dating iceberg''' is a ten-layer chart of dating and pickup lore, from folk clichés above the waterline to Wingman in-jokes on the floor. The version | The '''dating iceberg''' is a ten-layer chart of dating and pickup lore, from folk clichés above the waterline to Wingman in-jokes on the floor. The version indexed here is '''dating_iceberg_v2''' (Downloads, 8 September 2026), with thumbnail jokes in the margin.<ref name="wp">{{cite web |url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_artist |title=Pickup artist |website=Wikipedia |access-date=18 September 2026}}</ref> | ||
Layers 1–2 are mostly folk advice and pop slang. Layers 3–6 are where named pickup jargon lives — those phrases get articles. Layers 7–10 mix a few real ideas with tongue-in-cheek entries; the jokes stay on this page. Layer 9 includes the line '''“just be yourself” only works if you’ve built a self''' — see [[Authenticity]]. | Layers 1–2 are mostly folk advice and pop slang. Layers 3–6 are where named pickup jargon lives — those phrases get articles. Layers 7–10 mix a few real ideas with tongue-in-cheek entries; the jokes stay on this page. Layer 9 includes the line '''“just be yourself” only works if you’ve built a self''' — see [[Authenticity]]. | ||
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! Layers !! What it is !! What | ! Layers !! What it is !! What the encyclopedia does | ||
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| 1–2 || Folk / pop slang || Glossary pages or redirect here. Method is not "be nice." | | 1–2 || Folk / pop slang || Glossary pages or redirect here. Method is not "be nice." | ||
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| 3–4 || First real jargon || Real articles | | 3–4 || First real jargon || Real articles for named terms. | ||
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| 5–6 || Named technique plus maxxing jokes || Techniques get pages. | | 5–6 || Named technique plus maxxing jokes || Techniques get pages. [[Welfaremaxxing]] is the unemployed-vs-go-getter observation. Appearance-maxxing lines belong on the sister wiki. | ||
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| 7–8 || In-jokes plus a few real frames || Real terms resolve. Mormonism does not get a method page. | | 7–8 || In-jokes plus a few real frames || Real terms resolve. Mormonism does not get a method page. | ||
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== Layer 3 == | == Layer 3 == | ||
[[Don't always be available]] · [[Approach anxiety]] · [[Number close]] · [[Cold approach]] · [[Teasing|playful teasing]] · [[Sexual market value]] · tech guys don't get laid despite money · [[Shit test]]s · no-contact after breakup · NoFap · [[Value (pickup)|value]] · [[Logistics (seduction)|logistics]] · [[Three-second rule (pickup)|3-second rule]] · [[Daygame]] · [[Indicator of interest|indicators of interest]] · [[One-itis]] · sigma male · [[Social circle game]] · red pill · [[Hypergamy]] · [[Set a time and place]] · [[Learn to take rejection]] · [[Sexual conversation bridge]] · [[Game (seduction)|game]] · assholes get the girl · [[Let her talk about herself]] | [[Don't always be available]] · [[Approach anxiety]] · [[Number close]] · [[Cold approach]] · [[Teasing|playful teasing]] · [[Sexual market value]] · [[Welfaremaxxing|tech guys don't get laid despite money]] · [[Shit test]]s · no-contact after breakup · NoFap · [[Value (pickup)|value]] · [[Logistics (seduction)|logistics]] · [[Three-second rule (pickup)|3-second rule]] · [[Daygame]] · [[Indicator of interest|indicators of interest]] · [[One-itis]] · sigma male · [[Social circle game]] · red pill · [[Hypergamy]] · [[Set a time and place]] · [[Learn to take rejection]] · [[Sexual conversation bridge]] · [[Game (seduction)|game]] · assholes get the girl · [[Let her talk about herself]] | ||
== Layer 4 == | == Layer 4 == | ||
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== Layer 5 == | == Layer 5 == | ||
[[Danger is sexy]] · [[Agree and amplify]] · [[Auto-rejection]] · [[Never explain, never justify]] · [[Cat string theory]] · [[Sexualization|sexualize yourself]] · [[Investment asymmetry]] · mewing · [[Field report]]s · [[Keep the tension alive]] · [[Time bridge]] · [[The man with everyone's attention]] · gaitmaxxing · [[7-hour rule]] · [[Demonstration of higher value|DHV]] · | [[Danger is sexy]] · [[Agree and amplify]] · [[Auto-rejection]] · [[Never explain, never justify]] · [[Cat string theory]] · [[Sexualization|sexualize yourself]] · [[Investment asymmetry]] · mewing · [[Field report]]s · [[Keep the tension alive]] · [[Time bridge]] · [[The man with everyone's attention]] · gaitmaxxing · [[7-hour rule]] · [[Demonstration of higher value|DHV]] · [[Welfaremaxxing]] · [[Preselection]] · [[The Cube]] · [[Disqualification]] · [[Emotional anchoring]] · [[Inner game]] · [[Never seek approval]] · [[Sarging]] · [[Counter-signaling]] · [[State pumping]] | ||
== Layer 6 == | == Layer 6 == | ||
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== Layer 8 == | == Layer 8 == | ||
male body count matters · becoming famous · always assume · service-robot nibbāna (Roombāna) · seduction as mystery · leg-lengthening surgery · recursive shit test · autistic hypersexuality · [[She fell for the frame]] · women aren't attracted to money · drugdealermaxxing · frame multiplexing · liminoid bubbles · [[Self-qualification|inducing self-qualification]] · [[Silence is a shit test]] · [[You are her reality]] · cult-leader aura farming | male body count matters · becoming famous · always assume · service-robot nibbāna (Roombāna) · seduction as mystery · leg-lengthening surgery · recursive shit test · autistic hypersexuality · [[She fell for the frame]] · [[Welfaremaxxing|women aren't attracted to money]] · drugdealermaxxing · frame multiplexing · liminoid bubbles · [[Self-qualification|inducing self-qualification]] · [[Silence is a shit test]] · [[You are her reality]] · cult-leader aura farming | ||
== Layer 9 == | == Layer 9 == | ||
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transition–detransition gambit · quantum attraction mapping · make her feel seen by God · you were the wingman all along · null frame injection · the identity palimpsest · ouroboros escalation · The Frame Grail · cursed gait game · there is no game · prophylactically induced midlife crisis | transition–detransition gambit · quantum attraction mapping · make her feel seen by God · you were the wingman all along · null frame injection · the identity palimpsest · ouroboros escalation · The Frame Grail · cursed gait game · there is no game · prophylactically induced midlife crisis | ||
== | == Encyclopedia use == | ||
An iceberg is a joke format. The encyclopedia underneath it is not. Named techniques get pages with [[Seduction Wiki:Method|Method]] sections. Folk clichés redirect here or to the real article ("just be yourself" → [[Authenticity]]). Tongue-in-cheek floor entries stay on this page. | An iceberg is a joke format. The encyclopedia underneath it is not. Named techniques get pages with [[Seduction Wiki:Method|Method]] sections. Folk clichés redirect here or to the real article ("just be yourself" → [[Authenticity]]). Tongue-in-cheek floor entries stay on this page. | ||
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* [[Seduction community]] | * [[Seduction community]] | ||
* [[Mystery Method]] | * [[Mystery Method]] | ||
* [[Authenticity]] | * [[Authenticity]] | ||
* [[Newbie assignment]] | * [[Newbie assignment]] | ||
* [[Welfaremaxxing]] | |||
* [[Seduction Wiki:Point of view]] | * [[Seduction Wiki:Point of view]] | ||
Latest revision as of 00:07, 13 October 2026
 dating_iceberg_v2 — Wingman.live index chart
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| Field | Internet folklore / index |
|---|---|
| Also known as | dating game lore iceberg, dating_iceberg_v2 |
| Origin | wingman.live chart (dating_iceberg_v2, 2026) |
| Related | Pickup artist; Seduction Wiki:Point of view; Authenticity |
The dating iceberg is a ten-layer chart of dating and pickup lore, from folk clichés above the waterline to Wingman in-jokes on the floor. The version indexed here is dating_iceberg_v2 (Downloads, 8 September 2026), with thumbnail jokes in the margin.[1]
Layers 1–2 are mostly folk advice and pop slang. Layers 3–6 are where named pickup jargon lives — those phrases get articles. Layers 7–10 mix a few real ideas with tongue-in-cheek entries; the jokes stay on this page. Layer 9 includes the line “just be yourself” only works if you’ve built a self — see Authenticity.
Appearance slang on the chart (looksmaxxing, mewing, gaitmaxxing, jestermaxxing, bone-smashing) belongs on the sister wiki.
How to read it
| Layers | What it is | What the encyclopedia does |
|---|---|---|
| 1–2 | Folk / pop slang | Glossary pages or redirect here. Method is not "be nice." |
| 3–4 | First real jargon | Real articles for named terms. |
| 5–6 | Named technique plus maxxing jokes | Techniques get pages. Welfaremaxxing is the unemployed-vs-go-getter observation. Appearance-maxxing lines belong on the sister wiki. |
| 7–8 | In-jokes plus a few real frames | Real terms resolve. Mormonism does not get a method page. |
| 9–10 | Floor jokes, mystic frames, wingman.live | Index only, except "built a self." |
Layer 1 (sky)
Just be yourself · be a good listener · be nice to her · do favors for her · honesty is attractive · make her laugh · green flags / red flags · The friend zone · Situationship
Layer 2
Breadcrumbing · compliment her personality · confidence is attractive · don't be needy · Don't text back immediately · Open body language · Attachment styles · Love bombing · The ick · be vulnerable but not too soon · Don't simp · passion and drive are attractive · women love tall guys · The double text · Eye contact builds connection
Layer 3
Don't always be available · Approach anxiety · Number close · Cold approach · playful teasing · Sexual market value · tech guys don't get laid despite money · Shit tests · no-contact after breakup · NoFap · value · logistics · 3-second rule · Daygame · indicators of interest · One-itis · sigma male · Social circle game · red pill · Hypergamy · Set a time and place · Learn to take rejection · Sexual conversation bridge · game · assholes get the girl · Let her talk about herself
Layer 4
Venue transition · Don't chase · Desire cannot be negotiated · Boundaries are attractive · frame control · Negging · Isolation · LMR · Push-pull · Don't be a friend · Canned openers · Cocky funny · Mirroring · AMOG · Cold reading · Deep diving · Attraction before comfort · Social proof · Peacocking · Body count · Buying temperature · Show, don't tell · Kino escalation · Game matters more than looks · False time constraints · Plate spinning · Build intrigue, not familiarity
Layer 5
Danger is sexy · Agree and amplify · Auto-rejection · Never explain, never justify · Cat string theory · sexualize yourself · Investment asymmetry · mewing · Field reports · Keep the tension alive · Time bridge · The man with everyone's attention · gaitmaxxing · 7-hour rule · DHV · Welfaremaxxing · Preselection · The Cube · Disqualification · Emotional anchoring · Inner game · Never seek approval · Sarging · Counter-signaling · State pumping
Layer 6
compliance ladder · looksmaxxing · Abundance mentality · Fractionation · girls are silly and cute · Implied sexuality · Don't fix her problems · dream game · Draw with your presence · IOI scanning · Over-gaming · jestermaxxing · femcel mirror-vision · Absence is presence · Congruence · Dread game · microexpressions · Chad / Stacy · social-media maxxing · dating apps are 85% men · passport bros · monk mode
Layer 7
Status is communicated nonverbally · Women give wrong dating advice · converting to Mormonism · tattoomaxxing · intrasexual competition · retardmaxxing · unspoken rizz · the 40k lore-dump · Good-boy points · assume rapport & attraction · frame splicing · Pay/don't pay · semen retention · bone-smashing · vocal physiognomy · incels who fuck
Layer 8
male body count matters · becoming famous · always assume · service-robot nibbāna (Roombāna) · seduction as mystery · leg-lengthening surgery · recursive shit test · autistic hypersexuality · She fell for the frame · women aren't attracted to money · drugdealermaxxing · frame multiplexing · liminoid bubbles · inducing self-qualification · Silence is a shit test · You are her reality · cult-leader aura farming
Layer 9
ontological hyperpresence · LKI trap (Deadman's Rizz) · sorcery speed trauma-dump · NLP vibe-coding · Ghost-flirt bounce · kenotic frame collapse · just be yourself only works if you've built a self · belief transmission · Tactical rapport-delay · Ship of Theseus frame · Identity-level congruence · Zeno's escalation · astrology is real · stream-entry · resolving on Layer 7b · wingman.live
Layer 10 (floor)
transition–detransition gambit · quantum attraction mapping · make her feel seen by God · you were the wingman all along · null frame injection · the identity palimpsest · ouroboros escalation · The Frame Grail · cursed gait game · there is no game · prophylactically induced midlife crisis
Encyclopedia use
An iceberg is a joke format. The encyclopedia underneath it is not. Named techniques get pages with Method sections. Folk clichés redirect here or to the real article ("just be yourself" → Authenticity). Tongue-in-cheek floor entries stay on this page.
See also
- Pickup artist
- Seduction community
- Mystery Method
- Authenticity
- Newbie assignment
- Welfaremaxxing
- Seduction Wiki:Point of view
References
- ↑ Pickup artist. Wikipedia. Retrieved 18 September 2026.