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{{Infobox term | {{Infobox term | ||
| name | | name = Pay/don't pay | ||
| also | | also = who pays, the bill | ||
| field | | field = Pickup | ||
| origin | | origin = Iceberg | ||
| related = [[Frame (seduction)]]; [[Logistics (seduction)]]; [[Qualification (pickup)]] | | related = [[Frame (seduction)]]; [[Logistics (seduction)]]; [[Qualification (pickup)]] | ||
| image | | image = Espresso.jpg | ||
| caption | | caption = Espresso (Commons). The bill is a frame, not a personality. | ||
| alt | | alt = Espresso | ||
}} | }} | ||
'''Pay/don't pay''' is the iceberg 'false conundrum': who pays. In practice: pick a default, be unbothered, [[lead]]. Making the bill your personality is a [[frame (seduction)|frame]] leak either way. Logistics: if you invited, having the means is part of the plan.<ref name="wp">{{cite web |url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_artist |title=Pickup artist |website=Wikipedia | '''Pay/don't pay''' is the iceberg 'false conundrum': who pays. In practice: pick a default, be unbothered, [[lead]]. Making the bill your personality is a [[frame (seduction)|frame]] leak either way. Logistics: if you invited, having the means is part of the plan.<ref name="wp">{{cite web |url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_artist |title=Pickup artist |website=Wikipedia |access-date=18 September 2026}}</ref><ref name="ice">{{cite web |url=https://seduction.wiki/wiki/Dating_iceberg |title=Dating iceberg |website=Seduction Wiki |access-date=18 September 2026}}</ref> | ||
== Method == | == Method == | ||
Latest revision as of 09:07, 18 September 2026
 Espresso (Commons). The bill is a frame, not a personality.
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| Field | Pickup |
|---|---|
| Also known as | who pays, the bill |
| Origin | Iceberg |
| Related | Frame (seduction); Logistics (seduction); Qualification (pickup) |
Pay/don't pay is the iceberg 'false conundrum': who pays. In practice: pick a default, be unbothered, lead. Making the bill your personality is a frame leak either way. Logistics: if you invited, having the means is part of the plan.[1][2]
Method
- Decide before. Don't freeze at the table.
- If she insists, don't make it a trial.
- Don't use paying as a good-boy invoice.
Failure mode
A manifesto about the check. She wanted dinner.
See also
References
- ↑ Pickup artist. Wikipedia. Retrieved 18 September 2026.
- ↑ Dating iceberg. Seduction Wiki. Retrieved 18 September 2026.