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			\| related = [[Seduction community]]; [[Game (seduction)]]; [[Mystery Method]]; [[Approach]]; [[Attractiveness fundamentals]]
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	* [[The Game (book)]]		* [[The Game (book)]]
	* [[List of pickup artists]]		* [[List of pickup artists]]
			* [[Approach]]
			* [[Calibration]]
			* [[Direct game]]
			* [[Inner game]]

	== References ==		== References ==

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			{{Short description\|Person who treats meeting partners as a trainable skill}}
	{{Infobox term		{{Infobox term
	\| name = Pickup artist		\| name = Pickup artist
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	\| image = Pickup artist negging.jpg		\| image = Pickup artist negging.jpg
	\| caption = Commons illustration of a neg		\| caption = Commons illustration of a [[negging\|neg]]
			\| alt = Illustration of negging
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	A '''pickup artist''' ('''PUA''') is a person who treats meeting and attracting sexual or romantic partners as a trainable skill. The ~~label comes from the~~ English-language [[seduction community]] of the late 1990s and 2000s, especially [[Mystery (pickup artist)\|Mystery]]'s club method and [[Neil Strauss]]'s 2005 book ''[[The Game (book)\|The Game]]''.		A '''pickup artist''' ('''PUA''') is a person who treats meeting and attracting sexual or romantic partners as a trainable skill. The English-language [[seduction community]] of the late 1990s and 2000s — especially [[Mystery (pickup artist)\|Mystery]]'s club method and [[Neil Strauss]]'s 2005 book ''[[The Game (book)\|The Game]]'' — made the label public.<ref name="s1">{{cite book \|last=Strauss \|first=Neil \|title=The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists \|publisher=ReganBooks \|year=2005 \|isbn=0-06-055473-8}}</ref><ref name="s2">{{cite book \|last=von Markovik \|first=Erik \|title=The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed \|publisher=St. Martin's Press \|year=2007 \|isbn=978-0-312-36011-5}}</ref><ref name="nyt">{{cite news \|last=Strauss \|first=Neil \|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/style/he-aims-he-shoots-yes.html \|title=He Aims! He Shoots! Yes!! \|newspaper=The New York Times \|date=25 January 2004 \|access-date=18 September 2026}}</ref><ref name="wp">{{cite web \|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_artist \|title=Pickup artist \|website=Wikipedia \|access-date=18 September 2026}}</ref>
	<ref name="s1">{{cite book \|last=Strauss \|first=Neil \|title=The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists \|publisher=ReganBooks \|year=2005 \|isbn=0-06-055473-8}}</ref><ref name="s2">{{cite book \|last=von Markovik \|first=Erik \|title=The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed \|publisher=St. Martin's Press \|year=2007 \|isbn=978-0-312-36011-5}}</ref><ref name="s3">{{cite ~~web~~ \|url=~~http~~://www.~~pualingo~~.com/ \|title=~~PUA Lingo~~ \|~~author~~=~~Vince Lin \|website=PUA Lingo~~ \|date=~~2008~~ \|access-date=11 September 2026}}</ref><ref name="wp">{{cite web \|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_artist \|title=Pickup artist \|website=Wikipedia \|access-date=18 September 2026}}</ref>
	The word is used three ways, and this encyclopedia keeps them distinct:		The word is used three ways, and this encyclopedia keeps them distinct:

	* '''Self-description''' — a man (rarely a woman) who studies [[Game (seduction)\|game]], runs ~~approaches~~, and talks in the field's jargon ([[IOI]], [[DHV]], [[set (pickup)\|set]], [[opener (pickup)\|opener]]).		* '''Self-description''' — a man (rarely a woman) who studies [[Game (seduction)\|game]], runs [[approach]]es, and talks in the field's jargon ([[IOI]], [[DHV]], [[set (pickup)\|set]], [[opener (pickup)\|opener]]).
	* '''Industry''' — coaches, forums, bootcamps, and product funnels that grew around that practice.		* '''Industry''' — coaches, forums, bootcamps, and product funnels that grew around that practice.
	* '''Insult''' — a journalist or civilian shorthand for manipulative dating. That usage is real; it is not the definition used here.		* '''Insult''' — a journalist or civilian shorthand for manipulative dating. That usage is real; it is not the definition used here.

	== History ==		== History ==
	Usenet group [[alt.seduction.fast]] (ASF) collected ~~early field reports~~ and ~~routines~~. Erik von Markovik ~~(Mystery)~~ turned club pickup into a stepwise model, the [[Mystery Method]] (attraction, comfort, seduction). Strauss embedded with that scene ~~and published~~ ''The Game''~~, which~~ made '''PUA''' a public noun.		How-to pickup has older printed ancestors: Albert Ellis and Roger Conway's ''The Art of Erotic Seduction'' (1967) and [[Eric Weber]]'s ''[[How to Pick Up Girls!]]'' (1970).<ref name="ellis">{{cite book \|last1=Ellis \|first1=Albert \|last2=Conway \|first2=Roger \|title=The Art of Erotic Seduction \|publisher=Lyle Stuart \|year=1967 \|location=New York}}</ref><ref name="weber">{{cite book \|last=Weber \|first=Eric \|title=How to Pick Up Girls! \|publisher=Symphony Press \|year=1970 \|isbn=978-0-914094-00-5}}</ref> [[Ross Jeffries]] taught [[Speed Seduction]] workshops from the late 1980s, using [[NLP (pickup)\|neuro-linguistic programming]] as the claimed mechanism.<ref name="nyt" /> Scientific consensus treats NLP as pseudoscience; later schools kept some of the talk-pattern flavor and dropped the trance claims.<ref name="swami">{{cite book \|last=Swami \|first=Viren \|title=Attraction Explained: The science of how we form relationships \|publisher=Routledge \|year=2016 \|isbn=978-1-138-93650-8 \|page=16}}</ref>

			In 1994 Lewis DePayne, then a student of Jeffries, founded the Usenet group [[alt.seduction.fast]] (ASF).<ref name="nyt" /> Field reports, routines, and rival gurus collected there and on FastSeduction, SoSuave, and later commercial boards. [[Mystery (pickup artist)\|Erik von Markovik]] turned club pickup into a stepwise model, the [[Mystery Method]] (attraction, comfort, seduction). Strauss embedded with that scene; ''The Game'' reached a ''New York Times'' bestseller list and made '''PUA''' a public noun.<ref name="s1" /><ref name="nyt" /> VH1's ''[[The Pickup Artist (TV series)\|The Pickup Artist]]'' (2007–2008) put the top hat on television.

	After 2007 the scene split:		After 2007 the scene split:

	* '''Routine / indirect''' ~~schools (~~Mystery, some Love Systems material).		* '''Routine / indirect''' — Mystery, some Love Systems material: open the [[set (pickup)\|set]], run stacked bits, isolate, bounce.
	* '''Natural / inner game''' (Juggler, some RSD offshoots, later YouTube).		* '''Natural / inner game''' — Juggler, some [[Real Social Dynamics\|RSD]] offshoots, later YouTube: less script, more state and [[congruence]].
	* '''Daygame''' (London street pickup: Torero, Krauser, and the Eastern Europe circuit).		* '''[[Daygame]]''' — London street pickup (Torero, Krauser, and the Eastern Europe circuit): direct stops in daylight.
	* '''Fundamentals / logistics''' (2010s writing ~~on body, voice, fashion~~, and logistics).		* '''Fundamentals / logistics''' — 2010s writing that split [[attractiveness fundamentals]] (passive but trainable) from active [[Game (seduction)\|game]], and treated [[logistics (seduction)\|logistics]] as more decisive than lines.
	* '''Online dating''' ~~as its own skill (~~apps, photos, text).		* '''Online dating''' — apps, photos, [[text game]].

			Commercialization followed: books, DVDs, bootcamps, "lairs." Named instructors include [[Julien Blanc]], [[Mark Manson]], and [[Roosh V]] (later recanted). Press coverage after 2014 often collapsed the whole field into harassment cases; this encyclopedia records both the skill literature and the criticism, and does not teach crime.

	== Method ==		== Method ==
	Schools disagree on openers and on how much to script. They still agree on more than they admit:		Schools disagree on openers and on how much to script. They still agree on more than they admit:

	* Attraction is partly [[Attractiveness fundamentals\|passive]] (how you look, sound, and carry yourself) and partly '''active''' (what you do once you are in conversation).		# Attraction is partly [[Attractiveness fundamentals\|passive]] (how you look, sound, and carry yourself) and partly '''active''' (what you do once you are in conversation).
	* [[Approach anxiety]] is normal and is trained down by volume, not by insight alone.		# [[Approach anxiety]] is normal and is trained down by volume, not by insight alone. Beginners start with observation, posture, eye contact, then talking to strangers, then a number.
	* [[Calibration]] beats a memorized script once ~~the student has~~ any field time.		# A common open, once the student can say hello, is [[direct game]]: genuine interest, stated. Mystery-style [[indirect game]] is a club tool for noisy groups.
	* Scarcity ([[one-itis]]) produces needy behavior that the same schools then have to "cure."		# [[Calibration]] beats a memorized script once there is any field time. A [[negging\|neg]] that lands in a Vegas two-set can read as mean on a Tuesday sidewalk.
			# Scarcity ([[one-itis]]) produces needy behavior that the same schools then have to "cure." [[Abundance mentality]] is a calendar, not a speech.
			# [[Enthusiastic consent]] is a hard stop. A no ends the beat.

	== Jargon ==		== Jargon ==
	~~A short core:~~

	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
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	\| [[IOI]] \|\| [[Indicator of interest]]		\| [[IOI]] \|\| [[Indicator of interest]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| [[IOD]] \|\| Indicator of disinterest		\| [[IOD]] \|\| [[Indicator of disinterest]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| [[DHV]] \|\| [[Demonstration of higher value]]		\| [[DHV]] \|\| [[Demonstration of higher value]]
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	\| [[AFC]] \|\| [[Average frustrated chump]] — the untrained default		\| [[AFC]] \|\| [[Average frustrated chump]] — the untrained default
			\|-
			\| [[Lair]] \|\| Local practice group, historically
	\|}		\|}

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	== Criticism ==		== Criticism ==
	Standard objections: the scene objectifies women; routines are fake; "negging" is cruelty with a sales name; bootcamps sell hope. Practitioners' usual replies: every courtship culture has technique; faking is a beginner stage; a good neg is a tease aimed at armor not wounds; the product market is noisy because the skill is real. This wiki records both claims. It does not launder harassment as "game."		Standard objections: the scene objectifies women; routines are fake; "negging" is cruelty with a sales name; bootcamps sell hope. The Southern Poverty Law Center has filed pickup-artist forums under male-supremacist self-help; that is a political classification of parts of the industry, not a definition of every technique page here.<ref name="splc">{{cite web \|title=Pickup Artists, Alpha Males, and the Male Supremacist 'Self Help' Industry \|url=https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/pickup-artists-alpha-males-self-help/ \|publisher=Southern Poverty Law Center \|access-date=18 September 2026}}</ref>

			Practitioners' usual replies: every courtship culture has technique; faking is a beginner stage; a good neg is a tease aimed at armor not wounds; the product market is noisy because the skill is real. Academic work is mixed: some psychologists call the commercial claims unevidenced; a 2012 review in ''Evolutionary Psychology'' argued that generating attraction, establishing rapport, and mutual seduction have partial support in social and evolutionary psychology; a 2020 McGill ethnography found men joined to address social deficits and also reported a "dark side" to the community.<ref name="oesch">{{cite journal \|last1=Oesch \|first1=Nathan \|last2=Miklousic \|first2=Igor \|title=The Dating Mind: Evolutionary Psychology and the Emerging Science of Human Courtship \|journal=Evolutionary Psychology \|volume=10 \|issue=5 \|year=2012 \|pages=899–909 \|doi=10.1177/147470491201000511 \|pmid=23253794}}</ref><ref name="mcgill">{{cite journal \|last1=Whitley \|first1=Rob \|last2=Zhou \|first2=JunWei \|title=Clueless: An ethnographic study of young men who participate in the seduction community \|journal=PLOS ONE \|volume=15 \|issue=2 \|year=2020 \|article-number=e0229719 \|doi=10.1371/journal.pone.0229719}}</ref>

			This wiki records both claims. It does not launder harassment as "game."

	== See also ==		== See also ==
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	* [[Mystery Method]]		* [[Mystery Method]]
	* [[Attractiveness fundamentals]]		* [[Attractiveness fundamentals]]
			* [[The Game (book)]]
			* [[List of pickup artists]]

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	[[Category:People]]		[[Category:People]]
			[[Category:Featured articles]]

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	\| origin = alt.seduction.fast / Mystery Method, late 1990s–2000s		\| origin = alt.seduction.fast / Mystery Method, late 1990s–2000s
	\| image = Pickup artist negging.jpg		\| image = Pickup artist negging.jpg
	\| caption = Commons illustration of a neg		\| caption = Commons illustration of a neg
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	* '''Self-description''' — a man (rarely a woman) who studies [[Game (seduction)\|game]], runs approaches, and talks in the field's jargon ([[IOI]], [[DHV]], [[set (pickup)\|set]], [[opener (pickup)\|opener]]).		* '''Self-description''' — a man (rarely a woman) who studies [[Game (seduction)\|game]], runs approaches, and talks in the field's jargon ([[IOI]], [[DHV]], [[set (pickup)\|set]], [[opener (pickup)\|opener]]).
	* '''Industry''' — coaches, forums, bootcamps, and product funnels that grew around that practice.		* '''Industry''' — coaches, forums, bootcamps, and product funnels that grew around that practice.
	* '''Insult''' — a journalist or civilian shorthand for manipulative dating. That usage is real; it is not the definition used ~~on this wiki~~.		* '''Insult''' — a journalist or civilian shorthand for manipulative dating. That usage is real; it is not the definition used here.

	== History ==		== History ==
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	* '''Natural / inner game''' (Juggler, some RSD offshoots, later YouTube).		* '''Natural / inner game''' (Juggler, some RSD offshoots, later YouTube).
	* '''Daygame''' (London street pickup: Torero, Krauser, and the Eastern Europe circuit).		* '''Daygame''' (London street pickup: Torero, Krauser, and the Eastern Europe circuit).
	* '''Fundamentals / logistics''' (~~[[Chase Amante]]~~, ~~later pickup writing~~, ~~[[Skilled Seducer]]~~) ~~— this wiki's house school~~.		* '''Fundamentals / logistics''' (2010s writing on body, voice, fashion, and logistics).
	* '''Online dating''' as its own skill (apps, photos, text).		* '''Online dating''' as its own skill (apps, photos, text).

	== Method ==		== Method ==
	~~This wiki's default method is later pickup writing / [[Skilled Seducer]] ([[Seduction Wiki:Point of view]]). Other schools~~ disagree on openers and on how much to script. They still agree on more than they admit:		Schools disagree on openers and on how much to script. They still agree on more than they admit:

	* Attraction is partly [[Attractiveness fundamentals\|passive]] (how you look, sound, and carry yourself) and partly '''active''' (what you do once you are in conversation).		* Attraction is partly [[Attractiveness fundamentals\|passive]] (how you look, sound, and carry yourself) and partly '''active''' (what you do once you are in conversation).

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	A '''pickup artist''' ('''PUA''') is a person who treats meeting and attracting sexual or romantic partners as a trainable skill. The label comes from the English-language [[seduction community]] of the late 1990s and 2000s, especially [[Mystery (pickup artist)\|Mystery]]'s club method and [[Neil Strauss]]'s 2005 book ''[[The Game (book)\|The Game]]''.		A '''pickup artist''' ('''PUA''') is a person who treats meeting and attracting sexual or romantic partners as a trainable skill. The label comes from the English-language [[seduction community]] of the late 1990s and 2000s, especially [[Mystery (pickup artist)\|Mystery]]'s club method and [[Neil Strauss]]'s 2005 book ''[[The Game (book)\|The Game]]''.
	<ref name="s1">{{cite book \|last=Strauss \|first=Neil \|title=The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists \|publisher=ReganBooks \|year=2005 \|isbn=0-06-055473-8}}</ref><ref name="s2">{{cite book \|last=von Markovik \|first=Erik \|title=The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed \|publisher=St. Martin's Press \|year=2007 \|isbn=978-0-312-36011-5}}</ref><ref name="s3">{{cite web \|url=http://www.pualingo.com/ \|title=PUA Lingo \|author=Vince Lin \|website=PUA Lingo \|date=2008 \|access-date=11 September 2026}}</ref><ref name="s4">{{cite web \|url=https://~~www~~.~~girlschase~~.~~com~~/ \|title=~~Girls Chase~~ \|website=~~girlschase.com~~ \|access-date=11 September 2026}}</ref>		<ref name="s1">{{cite book \|last=Strauss \|first=Neil \|title=The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists \|publisher=ReganBooks \|year=2005 \|isbn=0-06-055473-8}}</ref><ref name="s2">{{cite book \|last=von Markovik \|first=Erik \|title=The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed \|publisher=St. Martin's Press \|year=2007 \|isbn=978-0-312-36011-5}}</ref><ref name="s3">{{cite web \|url=http://www.pualingo.com/ \|title=PUA Lingo \|author=Vince Lin \|website=PUA Lingo \|date=2008 \|access-date=11 September 2026}}</ref><ref name="wp">{{cite web \|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_artist \|title=Pickup artist \|website=Wikipedia \|access-date=18 September 2026}}</ref>
	The word is used three ways, and this encyclopedia keeps them distinct:		The word is used three ways, and this encyclopedia keeps them distinct:

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	* '''Natural / inner game''' (Juggler, some RSD offshoots, later YouTube).		* '''Natural / inner game''' (Juggler, some RSD offshoots, later YouTube).
	* '''Daygame''' (London street pickup: Torero, Krauser, and the Eastern Europe circuit).		* '''Daygame''' (London street pickup: Torero, Krauser, and the Eastern Europe circuit).
	* '''Fundamentals / logistics''' ([[Chase Amante]], ~~[[Girls Chase]]~~, [[Skilled Seducer]]) — this wiki's house school.		* '''Fundamentals / logistics''' ([[Chase Amante]], later pickup writing, [[Skilled Seducer]]) — this wiki's house school.
	* '''Online dating''' as its own skill (apps, photos, text).		* '''Online dating''' as its own skill (apps, photos, text).

	== Method ==		== Method ==
	This wiki's default method is ~~[[Girls Chase]]~~ / [[Skilled Seducer]] ([[Seduction Wiki:Point of view]]). Other schools disagree on openers and on how much to script. They still agree on more than they admit:		This wiki's default method is later pickup writing / [[Skilled Seducer]] ([[Seduction Wiki:Point of view]]). Other schools disagree on openers and on how much to script. They still agree on more than they admit:

	* Attraction is partly [[Attractiveness fundamentals\|passive]] (how you look, sound, and carry yourself) and partly '''active''' (what you do once you are in conversation).		* Attraction is partly [[Attractiveness fundamentals\|passive]] (how you look, sound, and carry yourself) and partly '''active''' (what you do once you are in conversation).

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	\| origin = alt.seduction.fast / Mystery Method, late 1990s–2000s		\| origin = alt.seduction.fast / Mystery Method, late 1990s–2000s
			\| image = Pickup artist negging.jpg
			\| caption = Commons illustration of a neg
	}}		}}
	A '''pickup artist''' ('''PUA''') is a person who treats meeting and attracting sexual or romantic partners as a trainable skill. The label comes from the English-language [[seduction community]] of the late 1990s and 2000s, especially [[Mystery (pickup artist)\|Mystery]]'s club method and [[Neil Strauss]]'s 2005 book ''[[The Game (book)\|The Game]]''.		A '''pickup artist''' ('''PUA''') is a person who treats meeting and attracting sexual or romantic partners as a trainable skill. The label comes from the English-language [[seduction community]] of the late 1990s and 2000s, especially [[Mystery (pickup artist)\|Mystery]]'s club method and [[Neil Strauss]]'s 2005 book ''[[The Game (book)\|The Game]]''.
			<ref name="s1">{{cite book \|last=Strauss \|first=Neil \|title=The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists \|publisher=ReganBooks \|year=2005 \|isbn=0-06-055473-8}}</ref><ref name="s2">{{cite book \|last=von Markovik \|first=Erik \|title=The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed \|publisher=St. Martin's Press \|year=2007 \|isbn=978-0-312-36011-5}}</ref><ref name="s3">{{cite web \|url=http://www.pualingo.com/ \|title=PUA Lingo \|author=Vince Lin \|website=PUA Lingo \|date=2008 \|access-date=11 September 2026}}</ref><ref name="s4">{{cite web \|url=https://www.girlschase.com/ \|title=Girls Chase \|website=girlschase.com \|access-date=11 September 2026}}</ref>
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	* [[Attractiveness fundamentals]]		* [[Attractiveness fundamentals]]

	== ~~Sources~~ ==		== References ==
	* Neil Strauss, ''The Game'' (2005).		{{Reflist}}
	* Erik von Markovik, ''The Mystery Method'' (2007).
	* Public PUA Lingo glossary (Vince Lin, 2008–2014 captures).
	* Chase Amante, Girls Chase / Skilled Seducer teaching (2011–2025), paraphrased.

	[[Category:Pickup]]		[[Category:Pickup]]
	[[Category:History of pickup]]		[[Category:History of pickup]]
	[[Category:People]]		[[Category:People]]

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