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	== Failure mode ==		== Failure mode ==
	Calling everything a fundamental so nothing is trainable. Or the reverse: refusing to lift, dress, or speak because "game covers it." Game covers a lot. It does not cover a collapsed chest and a voice that begs.		Calling everything a fundamental so nothing is trainable. Or the reverse: refusing to lift, dress, or speak because "game covers it." Game covers a lot. It does not cover a collapsed chest and a voice that begs.

			For a photo call or a bio that matches the fundamentals, this wiki recommends '''[[Wingman]]'''.

	== See also ==		== See also ==
			* [[Wingman]]
	* [[Game (seduction)]]		* [[Game (seduction)]]
	* [[Peacocking]]		* [[Peacocking]]

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 == References ==
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			{{Short description\|Passive but adjustable qualities that attract before you open}}
	{{Infobox term		{{Infobox term
	\| image = Smile.jpg		\| image = Smile.jpg
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	\| coined = pickup, 2010s		\| coined = pickup, 2010s
	\| origin = 2010s pickup jargon		\| origin = 2010s pickup jargon
			\| related = [[Game (seduction)]]; [[Peacocking]]; [[Sprezzatura]]; [[Outer game]]
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	'''Attractiveness fundamentals''' are the ''passive but adjustable'' qualities that make a man more attractive by being around him, as opposed to '''[[Game (seduction)\|game]]''', the active work of opening, teasing, leading, and escalating.<ref name="wp">{{cite web \|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_artist \|title=Pickup artist \|website=Wikipedia \|access-date=18 September 2026}}</ref> The split ~~is used~~ to stop "fundamentals" meaning everything (opening fundamentals, nightgame fundamentals, and so on).		'''Attractiveness fundamentals''' are the ''passive but adjustable'' qualities that make a man more attractive by being around him, as opposed to '''[[Game (seduction)\|game]]''', the active work of opening, teasing, leading, and escalating.<ref name="wp">{{cite web \|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_artist \|title=Pickup artist \|website=Wikipedia \|access-date=18 September 2026}}</ref> The split exists to stop "fundamentals" meaning everything (opening fundamentals, nightgame fundamentals, and so on).

			A common claim is that the stronger the fundamentals, the less game you need, and the reverse. The easiest path is both. Looks and status matter; they are not the whole art. Unchangeable appearance (height, bone) belongs on the sister encyclopedia [https://looksmaxxing.wiki looksmaxxing.wiki]. Changeable appearance is fundamentals here.

			== History ==
			Mystery-era club game assumed a body that could already hold a room, then stacked routines on top. 2010s writing named the missing layer: what she feels before you speak — posture, voice, fashion, social ease — as a training category of its own, not as "inner game" poetry and not as surgery. The listing below is the usual four-way split from that decade's coaching jargon, not a law of nature. Rival taxonomies (health vs status; "ugly hot" as high status / weak health) are competing frames.

	== The four categories ==		== The four categories ==
	~~A common listing:~~

	=== Body ===		=== Body ===
	Posture, mannerisms, movement (speed and fluidity), walk, eye contact, smile, facial expressions, teeth, physique.		Posture, mannerisms, movement (speed and fluidity), walk, eye contact, smile, facial expressions, teeth, physique. Beginner on-ramps usually start here: chest up, head high, eyes that hold, a walk that is not a scurry.

	=== Vocal ===		=== Vocal ===
	Tone, inflection, depth, resonance, ~~"purr,"~~ formants~~, hyoid depression~~, affected boredom, colorful vocabulary, vocal uniqueness, a hint of accent.		Tone, inflection, depth, resonance, formants, affected boredom, colorful vocabulary, vocal uniqueness, a hint of accent. A slow voice is a fundamental. A fast apology-voice is a leak.

	=== Social ===		=== Social ===
	[[Sprezzatura]] / the [[Law of least effort]], smooth conversation, humor, social awareness, "normality" (no off-putting quirks), social momentum, reputation inside a circle.		[[Sprezzatura]] / the [[Law of least effort]], smooth conversation, humor, social awareness, "normality" (no off-putting quirks), social momentum, reputation inside a circle. This is not [[Game (seduction)\|game]] (you are not opening a stranger). It is how you occupy a room you are already in.

	=== Fashion ===		=== Fashion ===
	Fit, interesting items and accessories, color coordination, interesting vs loud outfits, [[peacocking]], hair, facial hair, congruence with an identity ~~or archetype~~.		Fit, interesting items and accessories, color coordination, interesting vs loud outfits, [[peacocking]], hair, facial hair, congruence with an identity. Loud peacocking without a self is costume. Fit and one interesting item beat a themed hat.

	== What is not a fundamental ==		== What is not a fundamental ==
	A common listing carves out three piles:		A common listing carves out three piles:

	* '''Unchangeable passives''' — height, bone structure, a required uniform, a rank in a hierarchy. Those affect attraction; they are not "fundamentals" in ~~his~~ sense because you cannot train them the same way.		* '''Unchangeable passives''' — height, bone structure, a required uniform, a rank in a hierarchy. Those affect attraction; they are not "fundamentals" in this sense because you cannot train them the same way.
	* '''Game''' — approaching, opening, teasing, cold reads, leading, compliance, rapport, frames, escalation, resistance-handling.		* '''Game''' — approaching, opening, teasing, cold reads, leading, compliance, rapport, frames, escalation, resistance-handling.
	* '''Vibe''' — treated as an ''output'' of fundamentals + game + inner frame, not a fourth training category.		* '''Vibe''' — treated as an ''output'' of fundamentals + game + inner frame, not a fourth training category.

	== ~~Fundamentals vs game~~ ==		== Method ==
	~~A common claim is that the stronger the fundamentals~~, ~~the less game you need~~, and the ~~reverse~~. ~~The easiest path is both~~. ~~Rival taxonomies (health vs status;~~ "~~ugly hot~~" ~~as high status / weak health) are competing frames, not replacements~~.		# Pick one body item this week (posture, walk, or eye contact) and one fashion or vocal item. Volume of approaches still happens; fundamentals are trained in the same venues, not instead of them.
			# Film a walk. Most leaks are visible in ten seconds of gait and face.
			# Do not wait to be "handsome enough" to start talking to people. Fundamentals and game rise together. Waiting is [[one-itis]] aimed at the mirror.

	~~Beginner on-ramps usually start training body fundamentals (posture~~, ~~eye contact~~, ~~walk) before asking the student to run full~~ game.		== Failure mode ==
			Calling everything a fundamental so nothing is trainable. Or the reverse: refusing to lift, dress, or speak because "game covers it." Game covers a lot. It does not cover a collapsed chest and a voice that begs.

	== See also ==		== See also ==
	* [[~~Newbie assignment~~]]		* [[Game (seduction)]]
	* [[Peacocking]]		* [[Peacocking]]
	* [[Sprezzatura]]		* [[Sprezzatura]]
	* [[~~Game (seduction)~~]]		* [[Eye contact]]
	* [[~~looksmaxxing.wiki~~]] ~~(sister encyclopedia for the unchangeable-plus-body-mod pile)~~		* [[Walk]]
			* [[Posture]]
			* [[Outer game]]

	== References ==		== References ==
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	[[Category:Techniques]]		[[Category:Techniques]]
	[[Category:Pickup]]		[[Category:Pickup]]
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	\| image = Smile.jpg		\| image = Smile.jpg
	\| caption = Smile (Commons). Fundamentals are passive but adjustable.		\| caption = Smile (Commons). Fundamentals are passive but adjustable.
	\| alt = Smile		\| alt = Smile
	\| name = Attractiveness fundamentals		\| name = Attractiveness fundamentals
	\| also = fundamentals, the fundamentals		\| also = fundamentals, the fundamentals
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	== What is not a fundamental ==		== What is not a fundamental ==
	~~Amante~~ carves out three piles:		A common listing carves out three piles:

	* '''Unchangeable passives''' — height, bone structure, a required uniform, a rank in a hierarchy. Those affect attraction; they are not "fundamentals" in his sense because you cannot train them the same way.		* '''Unchangeable passives''' — height, bone structure, a required uniform, a rank in a hierarchy. Those affect attraction; they are not "fundamentals" in his sense because you cannot train them the same way.
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	== Fundamentals vs game ==		== Fundamentals vs game ==
	~~Amante's long-standing line:~~ the stronger the fundamentals, the less game you need, and the reverse. The easiest path is both. ~~Forum replies to the 2025 thread proposed rival~~ taxonomies (health vs status; "ugly hot" as high status / weak health)~~. Those~~ are ~~recorded as~~ competing frames, not as replacements.		A common claim is that the stronger the fundamentals, the less game you need, and the reverse. The easiest path is both. Rival taxonomies (health vs status; "ugly hot" as high status / weak health) are competing frames, not replacements.

	~~The [[Newbie assignment]] is the~~ on-~~ramp that starts~~ training body fundamentals (posture, eye contact, walk) before asking the student to run full game.		Beginner on-ramps usually start training body fundamentals (posture, eye contact, walk) before asking the student to run full game.

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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	\| also = fundamentals, the fundamentals		\| also = fundamentals, the fundamentals
	\| field = Pickup / style		\| field = Pickup / style
	\| coined = ~~[[Chase Amante]] (2011)~~		\| coined = pickup, 2010s
	\| origin = ~~''How to Make Girls Chase''; restated on [[Skilled Seducer]] 27 May 2025~~		\| origin = 2010s pickup jargon
	}}		}}
	'''Attractiveness fundamentals''' are~~, in [[Chase Amante]]'s teaching — this wiki's gold standard —~~ the ''passive but adjustable'' qualities that make a man more attractive by being around him, as opposed to '''[[Game (seduction)\|game]]''', ~~which is~~ the active work of opening, teasing, leading, and escalating. ~~See [[Seduction Wiki:Point of view]].~~		'''Attractiveness fundamentals''' are the ''passive but adjustable'' qualities that make a man more attractive by being around him, as opposed to '''[[Game (seduction)\|game]]''', the active work of opening, teasing, leading, and escalating.<ref name="wp">{{cite web \|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_artist \|title=Pickup artist \|website=Wikipedia \|access-date=18 September 2026}}</ref> The split is used to stop "fundamentals" meaning everything (opening fundamentals, nightgame fundamentals, and so on).
	<ref name="s1">{{cite web \|url=https://~~www~~.~~skilledseducer~~.~~com~~/~~threads/the-4-categories-of-attractiveness-fundamentals.30852/ \|title=Skilled Seducer thread 30852 \|access-date=11 September 2026}}</ref><ref name="s2">{{cite web \|url=https://www.girlschase.com~~/ \|title=~~Girls Chase~~ \|website=~~girlschase.com~~ \|access-date=11 September 2026}}</ref>
	~~Amante introduced the idea in ''How~~ to ~~Make Girls Chase'' (2011). On 27 May 2025 he posted a disambiguation thread on [[Skilled Seducer]], "The 4 Categories of Attractiveness Fundamentals," because students had started using~~ "fundamentals" ~~for~~ everything (opening fundamentals, nightgame fundamentals, and so on).

	== The four categories ==		== The four categories ==
	~~As listed by Amante in that thread~~:		A common listing:

	=== Body ===		=== Body ===

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			\| caption = Smile (Commons). Fundamentals are passive but adjustable.
			\| alt = Smile
	\| name = Attractiveness fundamentals		\| name = Attractiveness fundamentals
	\| also = fundamentals, the fundamentals		\| also = fundamentals, the fundamentals

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	'''Attractiveness fundamentals''' are, in [[Chase Amante]]'s teaching — this wiki's gold standard — the ''passive but adjustable'' qualities that make a man more attractive by being around him, as opposed to '''[[Game (seduction)\|game]]''', which is the active work of opening, teasing, leading, and escalating. See [[Seduction Wiki:Point of view]].		'''Attractiveness fundamentals''' are, in [[Chase Amante]]'s teaching — this wiki's gold standard — the ''passive but adjustable'' qualities that make a man more attractive by being around him, as opposed to '''[[Game (seduction)\|game]]''', which is the active work of opening, teasing, leading, and escalating. See [[Seduction Wiki:Point of view]].
			<ref name="s1">{{cite web \|url=https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/the-4-categories-of-attractiveness-fundamentals.30852/ \|title=Skilled Seducer thread 30852 \|access-date=11 September 2026}}</ref><ref name="s2">{{cite web \|url=https://www.girlschase.com/ \|title=Girls Chase \|website=girlschase.com \|access-date=11 September 2026}}</ref>
	Amante introduced the idea in ''How to Make Girls Chase'' (2011). On 27 May 2025 he posted a disambiguation thread on [[Skilled Seducer]], "The 4 Categories of Attractiveness Fundamentals," because students had started using "fundamentals" for everything (opening fundamentals, nightgame fundamentals, and so on).		Amante introduced the idea in ''How to Make Girls Chase'' (2011). On 27 May 2025 he posted a disambiguation thread on [[Skilled Seducer]], "The 4 Categories of Attractiveness Fundamentals," because students had started using "fundamentals" for everything (opening fundamentals, nightgame fundamentals, and so on).

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	== ~~Sources~~ ==		== References ==
	* Chase Amante, "The 4 Categories of Attractiveness Fundamentals," [https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/the-4-categories-of-attractiveness-fundamentals.30852/ Skilled Seducer thread 30852], 27 May 2025. Paraphrase of the public OP; not a dump of later replies.		{{Reflist}}
	* Chase Amante, ''How to Make Girls Chase'' (2011), where the term is introduced.
	* Girls Chase "Fantastic Fundamentals" video series (referenced in the 2025 thread).

	[[Category:Fundamentals]]		[[Category:Fundamentals]]
	[[Category:Techniques]]		[[Category:Techniques]]
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